This is a conversation I had with Mark “Bob” Boszko, ca. 2009, about productivity vs. quality. Bob is one of my oldest and dearest friends — we went to high school together, and have known one another for over twenty years. We’re both creative types, but we come at it from very different angles. This chat is one chapter in an ongoing debate that will probably never be settled. Originally presented as Sarcastic Voyage episode 121b.